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My thanks to Unlicensed user for passing along his notes, as I was somewhat occupied with microphone duties during the Q&A session.
§ The only way to make something simple to use it to have it actually be simple.
• Q/A
○ Update wizards to a newer look and feel
○ TypeScript support vs. just JS
○ Which JS framework
§ Something Node based
○ Clarion.NET -- some update coming
○ Unicode will be all or nothing
§ Months away
[02/10/2015 9:52:11 AM] David Harms: Thanks Mark! I have similar notes but will cross reference, much appreciated.
[02/10/2015 9:52:36 AM] David Harms: I definitely wasn't making any notes while I was taking questions<g>
[02/10/2015 5:11:05 PM] Mark Goldberg: notes from q & a
[02/10/2015 5:11:11 PM] Mark Goldberg: • Jeff Thompson: Progress on 64 bit and compiler
○ Z: underlying, also tied with unicode, Which (server-side) JS framework will the mobile solution use? It will be Node.js-based.
What about Clarion.NET? An update release is coming soon.
Will Unicode be all or nothing? Yes.
What is the status of the 56 bit compiler? This is tied into unicode, the path will never be a short one, some limitations as well, not all drivers will make the cut to 64 bit. ISAM - 32 bit, 64 will be SQL.
§ No time frame
§ Long path to get there
• Tom ___ : What are the top 3 differences between PE and EE
○ Classes , JSON for example
○ Functions in the IDE itself, caching of abc classes
○ Huge solutions, multiple applications
§ Difference in MSBuild, and circular dependencies
§ One does the .SLN vs. a collection of .cwproj
○ Planning on going to a single edition
• Rick Martin, 64/32 bit
○ TPS would require 32 bit
• Paul Epner (succession plan)
○ Ours is linked to yours, do you have one ?
○ Z: Don't really have one.
• Tom: .NET releases
○ .net 4.0 framework (replacing .net 2.0)
• Dries: Any plans to add exception handling
○ Or ____ between classes
○ Z: no plans, If you have a proposal eMail Z directly
• Harms ;;; name spaces
• Harms ;;; PTSS
○ GoFund, would you consider switching to something that we can vote on issues.
○ Z: If anyone knows of a system like that…..
• --- GPFS & Exceptions in ide
○ Please give directions on how to reproduce…
• School Licenses (Free)
○ Have them get in touch with Z
• ----
○ Expect it in 30 days
• Dries, with JavaScript tap into WinRT
○ Z: that's not the goal
○ Z: WinRT is an experiement - that has not gone that well
○ Z: will communicate with back end storage
○ Z: Looking for Multi-Platform, trying to avoid tying to MS
○ Harms
§ node__ is a server side library
• Mike Hanson
○ I work in a team of 10-12 developers, many comfortable writing classes, other not so much, how do they relate to each other ? Some way to ease classes more comfortable into the IDE.
○ Moaning that a constructor can fire anywhere
○ Have some control over the order that constructors fire
• Dave Harms
○ Asks about OOP use
• Carl Barnes
○ How are PTSS processes
○ Z: Talking about Team TopSpeed
• Dave Moyer
○ Switch to compile between 32/64
• Jay
○ Peg in the succession planning -- when go to an annualized subscription model
○ Z: good point, considering, merge into one product.
○ Harms
§ I hear that often,
§ It skips the is this release worth it, is that worth it ?
○ We need inertia
• Arnold Young - I used code jock, when do mobile, will I be able to use the mobile controls
• Z expect eMail with discount code and links to themes extra
• ??? - PDF Tracker announcement
○ Asking for a PDF viewer
• Merle Windler
○ New clarion user, the struggle he had to find the hidden video's in the training things
• Mike Gorman
○ 2nd, the thing on the training videos ect (Merle)
○ Clarion community at large, to upgrade and re-issue all of the training videos
○ Z: I could make an appeal to the community
○ Z: all of these videos on Clarion Live, nice to have a summary, which is summarized and searchable via google
• Carl Barnes:
○ Major loss if isam drivers lost ( text, dos )
• ??? --- Git Integration
○ Easy ways to collaborate among each other
○ Harms - - Make Rick Martin stand up.
• ??? -- missed it
○ Harms -
• .NET Update --- what's the long term view ?
○ Z: interesting in a way, . There are other limitations, for instance the ISAM drivers (including DAT and TPS) will not make the trip to 64 bit. There is no time frame.
What are the top three differences between PE and EE? The many included classes, such as JSON, communications etc; IDE improvements such as caching of ABC classes; handling circular references in multi-app solutions. SV is planning on moving to a single edition.
Paul Epner, who gave an excellent presentation on succession planning, asked Z what his succession plan is? Z admitted he doesn't have one but is motivated to do so.
Are there any plans to add exception handling? Or namespaces? No but send Z a proposal.
Would SV consider using a commercial bug reporting system with the option to vote on issues? Possibly, send Z product suggestions.
Will there be free educational licenses? There are, one was recently issued.
Will the mobile solution tap into WinRT? No.
How are PTSS issues reviewed/triaged? Z suggested a return to something like TeamTopspeed could help.
Will SV consider moving to a subscription model? Possibly. Somewhere around 50% show of hands in support.
Will the mobile solution allow the use of custom JavaScript controls? Yes.
There will be an email (since sent out) with discounts for conference attendees.
Request for a PDF viewer.
Can the training videos be updated? Z suggested an appeal to the community.
Will there be Git integration for better team development? You can have this now with Rick Martin's toolkit (search ClarionShop for Upper Park).
What's the long term view of Clarion.NET? Z commented on how Clarion.NET gives you 64 bit out of the box, but is missing the templates missing to drive it.
○ Z: free He also mentioned freeing up the T4 generator , so it could be invoked from the editioreditor, could have access to the DCT, could execute mini code templates.
• ??--- .net code vs. clarion is it the same DCT
○ Z: Yes
• Carl Barnes - tell us about clarion 11
○ Haahahaha
• ??? -- something in the dICTIONARY
• Moyer -- will the discount include clarion.net
○ Z: I had not considered that, but I'll add it..